Why MMORPG's suck

[satyavati]

Jan 30, 2010 1:55:39 GMT -8 Skarr said:

Jan 29, 2010 10:02:18 GMT -8 Desmodus said:

Just like that VR drug from Red Dwarf!

...
You know, the one they go extensively into in the books? Please tell me I'm not the only one who read those.

You're not the only one.

STAY STRONG, MY BROTHA!

That would be awesome!

I wouldn't have to push the stupid keys... and maybe the lag wouldn't be so bad....

[Desmodus]

Feb 11, 2010 17:19:44 GMT -8 @satyavati said:

Jan 30, 2010 1:55:39 GMT -8 Skarr said:

You're not the only one.

STAY STRONG, MY BROTHA!

That would be awesome!

I wouldn't have to push the stupid keys... and maybe the lag wouldn't be so bad....

You also never unplug. And since unplugging before you log off can induce comas, people rarely do that. So People have to clean and force feed you so that you don't die. Sounds really fun.

[Decimus]

Feb 11, 2010 18:14:39 GMT -8 Desmodus said:

Feb 11, 2010 17:19:44 GMT -8 @satyavati said:

That would be awesome!

I wouldn't have to push the stupid keys... and maybe the lag wouldn't be so bad....

You also never unplug. And since unplugging before you log off can induce comas, people rarely do that. So People have to clean and force feed you so that you don't die. Sounds really fun.

This sounds like they would be putting things in your mouth.

[Desmodus]

Yeah, sarcasm is awesome, isn't it?

[Skarr]

MMOs are a Skinner Box.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go push a lever in the hopes that it'll dispense food pellets.

[Wilhelm Opens-the-Way]

That is a great article.

[Athena Fire-in-Snow]

I, too, adore this article. And I now feel ever so much better about not liking MMOs.

[Skarr]

I haven't really weighed in on this issue, being a long-time MMO addict (it was part of the reason I dropped out of college the first time *shakes fist at Dark Age of Camelot*).

Nowadays, I play MMOs when I want a combat simulator with a social aspect built in, not a roleplaying experience. If I want actual RP, I'll go to Game or get on MIRC. I play WoW for the dungeon crawls and the satisfaction of killing shit, not because I expect it to be an immersive world where I can become my character. That's not the point for me.

And really, how many console/pc RPGs really give you more than that? Most Final Fantasy games have an intricate storyline that you participate in, but for the most part you're just hitting the same buttons over and over. In-depth roleplay isn't really the point of those games. It's about the game system and the fun game mechanics rather than the escapism that deeply-involved roleplaying involves. That's why I prefer LARPing for my actual RP. Electronic RPGs just don't provide that kind of experience, but that's not really what they're designed for.

[Just Evan]

May 5, 2010 15:34:35 GMT -8 Skarr said:

...That's why I prefer LARPing for my actual RP...

Wait... You're saying I shouldn't just show up at ECC, talk to the quest NPC, spam the Diablerize button and wait for the cooldown?


Huh...

[The Gentleman]

I play Minesweeper for the rp.

[Wilhelm Opens-the-Way]

May 5, 2010 17:26:24 GMT -8 The Gentleman said:

I play Minesweeper for the rp.

[Jane]

LOLZ!!!!

[Brendan]

May 5, 2010 16:34:19 GMT -8 Just Evan said:

May 5, 2010 15:34:35 GMT -8 Skarr said:

...That's why I prefer LARPing for my actual RP...

Wait... You're saying I shouldn't just show up at ECC, talk to the quest NPC, spam the Diablerize button and wait for the cooldown?


Huh...

This made me laugh so hard I cried... At work. You all suck.

[Skarr]

May 5, 2010 16:34:19 GMT -8 Just Evan said:

May 5, 2010 15:34:35 GMT -8 Skarr said:

...That's why I prefer LARPing for my actual RP...

Wait... You're saying I shouldn't just show up at ECC, talk to the quest NPC, spam the Diablerize button and wait for the cooldown?


Huh...

Ah, but the problem with spamming the Diablerize button is that it drops your faction rep with the Camarilla and makes the Scourge and Sheriff mobs aggro on you. Then you gotta activate Obfuscate to drop threat or maybe use Animalism to redirect it towards a tank, if you have one.

[Nelly]

I believe that Chimerstry would be a better substitute in your rotation for redirecting. Perhaps even Dominate. Animalism is a great AOE, but it really doesn't offer agro misdirection. Although, if the tank was using Presence... he wouldn't need you to redirect, now would he?

[Just Evan]

You only drop faction rep with the cam if your Diablerize goes off in aggro range. I find the other side of a wall is usually sufficient if you are soloing when you pop Diab. Things tend to get more complicated if you are grouped though (unless you all ground up Tremere Rep for NBR, amirite?).

In any case, agging the Sheriff or Scourge depends on if anyone drops AP on you before your Lines cooldown is up (always a danger, regardless of if you solo'd or grouped the diab).

If it comes to managing Ag, Ob or An5 are pretty good, but I try to carry a scapegoat around in my back pocket for situations like that. Clan gets you disciplines sure, but profession gets you so much more.

Social Engineer ftw with the Convenient Scapegoat, Social Stigma and Well Placed Boon. You can drop any of those in just about any situation and get some aggro pulled off or at least support your tank by minimizing DPS on him. Best part? All the mats are pretty much laid at your feet by the other toons. No need to farm ingredients most of the time.

Some people swear by Lore Master or Creepy Enchanter; but you ask this MT and he'll go SE every time.

[Decimus]

May 13, 2010 9:04:52 GMT -8 Just Evan said:

You only drop faction rep with the cam if your Diablerize goes off in aggro range. I find the other side of a wall is usually sufficient if you are soloing when you pop Diab. Things tend to get more complicated if you are grouped though (unless you all ground up Tremere Rep for NBR, amirite?).

In any case, agging the Sheriff or Scourge depends on if anyone drops AP on you before your Lines cooldown is up (always a danger, regardless of if you solo'd or grouped the diab).

If it comes to managing Ag, Ob or An5 are pretty good, but I try to carry a scapegoat around in my back pocket for situations like that. Clan gets you disciplines sure, but profession gets you so much more.

Social Engineer ftw with the Convenient Scapegoat, Social Stigma and Well Placed Boon. You can drop any of those in just about any situation and get some aggro pulled off or at least support your tank by minimizing DPS on him. Best part? All the mats are pretty much laid at your feet by the other toons. No need to farm ingredients most of the time.

Some people swear by Lore Master or Creepy Enchanter; but you ask this MT and he'll go SE every time.

TL;DR: Spam Dominate?

[Just Evan]

May 13, 2010 11:10:36 GMT -8 Decimus said:

TL;DR: Spam Dominate?

Negative ghost rider.

TL;DNR: Get some schmuck to spam dominate for you.

[Wilhelm Opens-the-Way]

Or you could just get a noob to shout LEEEEEEROOOOOY JEEEEEEENNNNNKIIIIIINNNNNNNSSSS! and train all the mobs through Elysium. Funny, though makes it hard to raid the instance later.

[Mike Lohmann]

I have officially quit wow....






.... again.....






For good this time!

I am now strictly into XBL MMA competitions. And PacMan.